{"id":25468,"date":"2015-07-10T05:00:11","date_gmt":"2015-07-10T12:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/creativemarket.com\/blog\/?p=25468"},"modified":"2024-04-09T00:37:57","modified_gmt":"2024-04-09T07:37:57","slug":"the-freedom-of-making-an-interview-with-leta-sobierajski","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/creativemarket.com\/blog\/the-freedom-of-making-an-interview-with-leta-sobierajski","title":{"rendered":"The Freedom of Making: An Interview with Leta Sobierajski"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To describe the work of <a href=\"http:\/\/letasobierajski.net\/\">Leta Sobierajski<\/a> is to wrangle with numerous contradictions. They are still lives, it would appear, but they are anything but still. It&#8217;s graphic design, and yet it oozes fine art out of every pore. It&#8217;s meticulously controlled, but experimental &amp; very playful at the same time. We chatted to the New York-based designer about getting a formal education in design, being remembered as a real person, and the creative potential of childhood.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"As_much_as_I_love_your_work_I_often_find_myself_looking_at_a_piece_of_yours_hugely_enjoying_it_but_realising_that_I_donaE%E2%84%A2t_really_aEoeget_itaE_Would_you_say_itaE%E2%84%A2s_important_to_you_that_your_work_is_aEoegottenaE\"><\/span>As much as I love your work, I often find myself looking at a piece of yours, hugely enjoying it, but realising that I don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t really &acirc;&euro;&oelig;get it.&acirc;&euro; Would you say it&acirc;&euro;&trade;s important to you that your work is &acirc;&euro;&oelig;gotten&acirc;&euro;?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> No, I think it&#8217;s okay not to get something, as long as&#8230; well, I just hope that not getting it doesn&#8217;t compromise the appreciation of it. I mean, I look at other people&#8217;s work and don&#8217;t understand things sometimes too, but it can still be pleasurable in other ways &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; it can still be aesthetically beautiful, even if the concept isn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t quite clear. I think there&acirc;&euro;&trade;s merit to that &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; to just making something beautiful.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/d3ui957tjb5bqd.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/2015\/07\/08235258\/leta-1.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Portrait &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; Leta Sobierajski Interview\" width=\"680\" height=\"450\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25475\"><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"You_studied_design_at_Purchase_College_aE%E2%80%9D_how_important_would_you_say_is_a_formal_education_in_design\"><\/span>You studied design at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.purchase.edu\/\">Purchase College<\/a> &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; how important, would you say, is a formal education in design?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> There were things I learned at college that I probably wouldn&#8217;t have had the motivation to do otherwise. I had a lot of older, traditionally-trained professors, many of whom made you do everything by hand &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; you&acirc;&euro;&trade;d have to cut everything out yourself, and do your kerning and your leading by hand. I didn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t even touch a computer until my second year. When you&#8217;re 18, you feel like what you&acirc;&euro;&trade;re doing is so silly, but by the time I graduated, I realized that those exercises had really taught me to train my eye. And I don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t know how &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; or if &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; I&acirc;&euro;&trade;d have learned those techniques otherwise. So yes, I think school can be really beneficial in that respect.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_there_a_point_in_your_career_that_you_particularly_regret\"><\/span>Is there a point in your career that you particularly regret?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> I used to really regret beginning my career in motion graphics, but to be honest, had I not done so, I might not be doing what I am doing now. Now, I believe my pursuit was actually quite beneficial even if at the time I felt like it had been a mistake. I was at MPC for, like, four days before I said to myself &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Oh, sh#@. This is gonna suck.&acirc;&euro; I ended up working there for eight months, and aside from meeting one of my best friends there, I just&acirc;&euro;&brvbar; I hated the experience.<\/p>\n<p>I mean, they make really great work, don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t get me wrong &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; I just don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t think I have the patience or the skill for something like that. Working in a VFX house just wasn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t the right environment for me. I was doing end tags for banks and toothbrushes. This one time, I was asked to make a styleframe of a female centaur eating yogurt. I remember doing it and thinking &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Okay, I know I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m getting paid for this, but&acirc;&euro;&brvbar; what the f#$k?&acirc;&euro;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/d3ui957tjb5bqd.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/2015\/07\/08235301\/leta-4.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Quote &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; Leta Sobierajski Interview\" width=\"680\" height=\"381\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25472\"><\/p>\n<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t know if that experience at MPC counts as a failure: it was an opportunity I decided to explore, and I ended up disappointing myself with my decision. I felt misguided and confused about the work I wanted to achieve versus the work I was actually making. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d fully consider it a failure, but whether it was or wasn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t, it&acirc;&euro;&trade;s one that I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m very grateful for.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_so_the_other_side_of_that_question_whataE%E2%84%A2s_been_your_biggest_success_so_far\"><\/span>And so the other side of that question: what&acirc;&euro;&trade;s been your biggest success so far?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> For me, it was absolutely making the leap away from motion graphics and VFX and deciding to start anew with my portfolio &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; investing my time and money in my personal projects. Had I not done that &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; had I not taken the time and the money to explore what made me happy &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; none of this would have happened. It&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a big sacrifice &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; it took a lot for me to say to myself &acirc;&euro;&oelig;I&#8217;m not going to see my friends all the time. I&#8217;m not going to go out.&acirc;&euro; But it&acirc;&euro;&trade;s important to focus on yourself &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; to work towards something for you.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"In_a_broader_context_how_would_you_define_success\"><\/span>In a broader context, how would you define success?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> To me, success is about being satisfied with yourself &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; recognizing something that you take pleasure in doing, and feeling compelled by that.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_would_you_consider_yourself_successful\"><\/span>And would you consider yourself successful?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> I think so, yes. I feel successful in that I&#8217;ve found something that really gets me going &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; and that keeps me going. But, I don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t want to say that I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m successful in terms of being fully satisfied yet, because that would mean I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m done. But I certainly find success in what I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m doing, yes.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/d3ui957tjb5bqd.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/2015\/07\/08235304\/leta-3.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Digg 214 &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; Leta Sobierajski Interview\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25473\"><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"On_that_note_when_is_it_in_your_life_that_you_feel_at_your_absolute_happiest\"><\/span>On that note: when is it, in your life, that you feel at your absolute happiest?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> I think I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m probably happiest when I&#8217;m working on a project I&#8217;m really excited about, and also when I&#8217;m with my partner Wade. If those two could combine, I would probably explode! I would be so happy. But that hasn&#8217;t happened yet though. <\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"IsnaE%E2%84%A2t_that_the_case_with_Complements_your_collaboration_with_Wade\"><\/span>Isn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t that the case with <a href=\"http:\/\/complementsproject.tumblr.com\/\">Complements<\/a>, your collaboration with Wade?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><em><strong>Leta:<\/strong> [Laughs]<\/em> No, no, no, that&#8217;s absolutely the case. I guess that&#8217;s not client work though.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Right_aE%E2%80%9D_youaE%E2%84%A2re_not_getting_paid_for_it_essentially\"><\/span>Right &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; you&acirc;&euro;&trade;re not getting paid for it, essentially!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><em><strong>Leta:<\/strong> [Laughs]<\/em> Well, yeah! But, I think that&#8217;s when I&#8217;m happiest. Maybe it&#8217;s sad to some people, but I think I derive my most pleasure from working. And I know that Wade&acirc;&euro;&trade;s the same way too &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; which is why we get along so well, I guess.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/d3ui957tjb5bqd.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/2015\/07\/08235308\/leta-2.jpg.webp\" alt=\"Complements  &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; Leta Sobierajski Interview\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25474\"><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_sort_of_a_legacy_do_you_want_to_leave_behind_Or_do_you_even_want_to_be_remembered_at_all\"><\/span>What sort of a legacy do you want to leave behind? Or do you even want to be remembered at all?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> I&#8217;d like to be remembered for not taking myself too seriously &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; for not being afraid to show personality and emotion in my work. I guess I just want to be remembered as a person. I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m human! If I can contribute anything to the design world, that&#8217;s great &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; but if I can&acirc;&euro;&trade;t, that&#8217;s okay too. I just want people to know that I&#8217;m happy and that I love what I do. That&acirc;&euro;&trade;s crucial for me.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Is_there_a_time_in_your_life_that_you_wish_you_could_relive\"><\/span>Is there a time in your life that you wish you could relive?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> I&#8217;d love to go back to that time in my childhood &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; about 4 or 5 &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; before you really know what&#8217;s going on, or what life is all about. There&#8217;s a time in your life when nothing is taken so seriously &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; you have no hang-ups, there are no inhibitions, and you&acirc;&euro;&trade;re never embarrassed or ashamed of what you&acirc;&euro;&trade;ve done. I wish I could go back to that time &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; I&acirc;&euro;&trade;d love to draw things and create things and not feel inhibited about what I&#8217;m producing.<\/p>\n<p>When you&#8217;re an adult, there&#8217;s so much to worry about. You worry about how people are going to react to your work, and so you dumb down your idea. You&acirc;&euro;&trade;re afraid your concept won&acirc;&euro;&trade;t be understood, and so you don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t pursue it. But as a child, you don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t have those filters &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; there&acirc;&euro;&trade;s just this openness: the complete freedom of making.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/d3ui957tjb5bqd.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/2015\/07\/08235312\/leta-5.jpg.webp\" alt=\"24  &acirc;&euro;&rdquo; Leta Sobierajski Interview\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25471\"><\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"And_finally_what_scares_you_most_about_the_next_five_years\"><\/span>And finally: what scares you most about the next five years?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p> Um&#8230; I think what scares me is that it&#8217;s so uncertain. I try not to make too much of a plan, or a timeline, just because every year is so different. I feel like, so far, every year has triumphed the past year, and so there isn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t a reason to be scared. I find it really stressful to prescribe to myself what I&acirc;&euro;&trade;ll be doing in the next year, let alone the next five. There are people who are convinced that &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Next year, I&#8217;m gonna work with this client!&acirc;&euro; or &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Next year, I have to get featured on this blog.&acirc;&euro; Personally, I try to just take it as it comes. But absolutely, the uncertainty can be scary.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/conorodriscoll.com\/\">Conor O&#8217;Driscoll<\/a> is a designer, a writer and an interviewer based in Bath, UK. Follow him <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/odrscll\">on Twitter<\/a> if you enjoy ill-informed opinions on design and excruciating puns.<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To describe the work of Leta Sobierajski is to wrangle with numerous contradictions. They are still lives, it would appear, but they are anything but still. 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